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ggaliens	Who Asked for Turn-Towards (RELEASED) ???	Lead	[-]
(11/06/09 08:47:04) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None Who Asked for Turn-Towards ??? This puppy is just about ready to roll. I started with turn towards Origin. A Face mode operation. But it acts on Objects. Select one face per object ... like put-on. The selected face remains in same basic position. I think maybe ... Turn towards .... Origin, Y-Axis, X-axis, Z-Axis, and Stored Selection (catch-all). Any ideas before this plug-in will hit the street for a test run ??? FLASH VIDEO DEMO ... http://www.manifoldlab.com/temp/turn-towards-huff.html Last Edited By: ggaliens 11/06/09 12:20:38. Edited 2 times.
Dimitri		#1	[-]
(11/06/09 12:12:32) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	'Who Asked for Turn-Towards ???' Me... :-))) Ok, Gga, this is good news... Be sure that such a command will be very useful... My idea was going so: you select a face on an object... click the command turn object towards x, y or z axis' and, there, the whole object turns so that the choosen axis may thread through the center of the selected face... the face standing parallel (in its normals direction) to the choosen axis... But let illustrate it with an image:
ggaliens		#2	[-]
(11/06/09 12:18:03) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Let it be done that way then. Take it for a ride.
Dimitri		#3	[-]
(11/06/09 13:52:52) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	This goes to be a very useful tool... Thanks a lot Gga... well done... a simple looking but major contribution, indeed... The 'turn towards the origin' option too a quite good idea... :-)))
ggaliens	Some degree of haphazardness ...	#4	[-]
(11/06/09 14:28:20) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Some degree of haphazardness ... Because you only specify the FACE and no other geometry to help lock down orientation ... sometimes the results will not be exactly what you want. You'll have to play with it to see what it's good for. Probably good for Trees, Rocks, Crystals, Toy Soldiers and a few other things. Toy Soldiers have a natural front, back, up, down ... but I did goof with them a bit to see if would face origin. Seems OK.
ggaliens		#5	[-]
(11/06/09 14:44:05) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Also ... I tried implementing this a couple ways ... (1) One where the rotation is about the face center (2) and also in experiments where the rotation is about the geometric center but the ray if not the face normal but the ray from geo-center to face center. Seems like neither of these alone is the best option. Dimitri sees to want to rotate about the object center so that the face is oriented right. So I'm playing with that now.
Dimitri		#6	[-]
(11/06/09 14:46:46) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I just tried it... It is not exactly the thing I thought, admittedly... The thing I mentioned was exactly the one illustrated in the image I did put above... No doubt the way now the command works may do some work but it is not the thing explained in the image... Gga look at my topic below also... There I have described detailedly the possible uses of such a command... The reason I want to turn a whole object towards a given axis, in exactly this way, has to do with achieving some moves that can not be achieved by another way... http://nendowingsmirai.yuku.com/topic/6482 Last Edited By: Dimitri 11/06/09 14:54:28. Edited 1 times.
Dimitri		#7	[-]
(11/06/09 15:01:48) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Or... let explain it so: the way you turn the objects towards an axis does not give the opportunity to extrude or move the selected face towards that axis... For being able to extrude or move a face towards an axis it has to be aligned to it in the way the image above is illustrating...
ggaliens		#8	[-]
(11/06/09 15:18:55) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Your option seems to show a static GEOMETRIC CENTER. If that's not you desire ... please let me know. I think I'm going to provide that as an option anyway.
ggaliens		#9	[-]
(11/06/09 16:04:46) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	New Release. I like it better. Please understand the difference between Turn towards x-axis and Turn towards { HUGE_X , 0.0, 0.0 } The former will be undefined with an object centered at origin. This freaked me out for a while. But is very reasonable when you think about it. You will need to type in a value for { HUGE_X , 0.0, 0.0 } at this time until I add more menu items.
ggaliens		#10	[-]
(11/06/09 17:19:48) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	OK ... There is a whole bunch of TURN options now. They could be condensed. A bunch of them are just shortcuts for entering a user point. This turn towards ... is designed for use with Scatter and other artsy non-architectural type plug-ins. For precision rotations ... try another avenue. Last Edited By: ggaliens 11/08/09 08:29:05. Edited 2 times.
Dimitri		#11	[-]
(11/07/09 08:59:37) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Gga I do not understand what you mean by saying 'static geometric center'... The thing I mean is very simple... When we give the 'turn towards' command the selected-reference face should look directly toward the selected axis so that it may be extruded or moved towards that axis... In fact it is a way for turning faces not looking towards a default scene axis so that they may be manipulated the same way you manipulate a face when it is looking directly towards a default scene axis... The image I did send shows the case quite clearly, I think...
ggaliens	You should just try the new release.	#12	[-]
(11/07/09 19:45:43) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	You should just try the new release. For a sphere ... it does what you have asked for.
ggaliens		#13	[-]
(11/08/09 08:20:25) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	This release adds more control for you ... http://www.manifoldlab.com/temp/turn-dialog-huff.html
Dimitri		#14	[-]
(11/09/09 03:10:17) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Ok Gga... tried... the work has been done... Thanks a lot for this nice add on... it will be felt as a precious aid, in many modelling and staging tasks, no doubt...
makr		#15	[-]
(11/09/09 05:43:42) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	It seems to be my day to "misunderstand". Sorry. Well, anyway, my problem: I take a cube and rotate a face (Face0 - marked in the image below). Now it's no longer perpendicular to Z-axis. I run the command "turn to->z+infinity". Nothing happens. No change! I run the command on Face1 (right half of image). The face - which is already pointing to x+axis - turns (along with object)! Well, can you tell me where my understanding has gone wrong. btw, is it possible for this to work only on selected face? And/or an option for us to "choose" the face to which it should turn. And I'd like to second Dmitri's comments - and thanks - for a(nother) potentially v useful plugin for precise working. Thanks.
ggaliens		#16	[-]
(11/09/09 06:39:10) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Makr ... you didn't pick "fix face center". So that's why it probably only moved a very very tiny ways towards Z infinity.
ggaliens		#17	[-]
(11/09/09 06:41:50) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Dimitri ... is it really doing enough for you ??? Sometimes it is easy to misunderstand each others desired and works. So I want to double check. Personally ... I think it should be possible to constrain one axis while running the TURNS ... but that is not yet implemented. The results would be different I'm fairly sure.
makr		#18	[-]
(11/09/09 07:27:51) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	>>Makr ... you didn't pick "fix face center".. which "fix face center"? Is it in the 08nov version? (I'm using the 06nov one). I'm on my way to download that.
ggaliens	Please get newer Plugin Makr	#19	[-]
(11/09/09 07:56:16) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Please get newer Plugin Makr. The new one is much better than the one you show and has the options you need.
makr		#20	[-]
(11/09/09 08:40:57) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Thanks. Already did it ;D Will be able to test it tomorrow only, unfortunately - by which time another version will probably appear on the site You create faster than I can keep track of them.

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