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Ran13		#21	[-]
(08/20/09 06:57:27) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	mrEmpty wrote: Let's just admit it, all 3D software (that does not involve drag and drop of pre made junk) is good and very capable. It's us being human and therefore liking different stuff that starts software wars. Personally I'll use anything, apart from Blender with it's current ugly UI. Yea... "different stuff"... like apps that actually work as good in the 2.x version as they did in the 1.x version, don't produce an "Access Violation" crash a half-dozen times a session, send verts out into the nether reaches of space or snap them to the origin for no good reason, &/or lose symmetry any time you try to cut across the sym. plane ... yea SILO...I'm lookin' square at you. When I get home, (and if I remember... ) I'll post a screenie of my Blender interface.. or at least one of them... I have several customized to the task at hand. Blender's UI is way more customizable than most people give it credit for. And each configuration can be saved and accessed from a drop down menu for quick changes.
mrEmpty		#22	[-]
(08/20/09 07:01:10) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I get none of those errors with Silo though. Maybe computers are growing intelligence, and it's actually them that like different stuff. If anyone could make a Silo or Maya UI for Blender, with a tutorial on how to make that UI install, I'd be all over it.
extrudeface		#23	[-]
(08/20/09 10:00:22) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I do, have done, (and every day seems more and more likely has been a great advantage to learn it) already quite some comercial work with blender. Of course, not the modeling part. is quite usable for that, like I can also model in Max. But have all my passion in wings for that area. That is, the tool is pretty capable(in my opinion already has beaten to dust some generic but mid cost 3D applications(not specialized task ones)). The UI, far away from standard, tho has a steady coherence in the way you handle all the program. In the years of the C-Key was pretty harder to handle, at least for me. But I quite understand what you mean... Is way too different.
mrEmpty		#24	[-]
(08/20/09 10:23:35) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I run everything on a Mac btw, so maybe the Silo errors are PC based?
Ran13		#25	[-]
(08/20/09 10:51:42) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	If Silo works so well for you, what are you doing here? Not that I want ya to go away or anything, but it does beg the question. It's like continuing to look for something after you've found it.
mrEmpty		#26	[-]
(08/21/09 00:51:18) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Simple, I'm a software !+@%@. I have to learn new software and ways of working, otherwise I go nuts. And, it makes me a better 3D person if I understand all the various ways of doing stuff. I hope.
puzzledpaul		#27	[-]
(08/21/09 01:05:40) Registered Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	<< It's like continuing to look for something after you've found it >> << Simple, I'm a software !+@%@. I have to learn new software>> Ditto here - but different area - looking for / making the 'perfect' camera support system (for my partic purposes) - making / using something that I think 'fits the bill' ... doesn't stop me continuing to mess about (doesn't make me a 'better' snapper, of course) pp
mrEmpty		#28	[-]
(08/21/09 01:53:00) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Ahh, a fellow photographer then? I shoot street, recently moved back to DSLR after working with rangefinders for a long while.
puzzledpaul		#29	[-]
(08/21/09 03:40:50) Registered Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	macro (mainly) here.
arquebus		#30	[-]
(08/22/09 00:34:54) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	When I get home, (and if I remember... ) I'll post a screenie of my Blender interface just a reminder
Ran13		#31	[-]
(08/23/09 07:39:55) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	1/2-res ... I have a 28" monitor
ycarry		#32	[-]
(08/23/09 09:49:02) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	... I like the Blender 2.5 UI! Edit: link to 100% view Last Edited By: ycarry 08/23/09 10:08:43. Edited 1 times.
jhouck		#33	[-]
(08/23/09 11:09:20) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Yeah... the new UI is looking sweet! I will still build most of my models in W3D and export them, but the rigging and animation tools in Blender are awesome!
arquebus		#34	[-]
(08/23/09 19:42:53) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Ran- How did you set that UI up? I like the color of the toolbars, toolpanels and buttons. I really like the sky background in the viewport. If you have to input RGB values manually could I trouble you to give me those numbers? ycarry- is there away to turn off that stupid selector ring in 2.5 yet?
puzzledpaul		#35	[-]
(08/24/09 01:54:13) Registered Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	<< could I trouble you to give me those numbers? >> Screen grab and eyedropper?
Ran13		#36	[-]
(08/24/09 05:29:40) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	http://blendernewbies.blogspot.com/2007/12/video-tutorial-pimp-your-blender-learn.html Watch the video on how... Scroll down for links to ready-made themes. Big difference between my theme and 2.5... all the features & buttons in mine actually work. Also, from looking at that 2.5 UI, they've made the transform & view panels just like the regular buttons panel... IOW... they can't over-lap the viewport. In my interface, that info is on the 2 floating panels in the upper right and lower left of the main viewport. Here's my interface on the 32-bit version I have here at work: Less screen real estate on this one (22" monitor"). I set it up while doing lighting/ materials. 2.5 is going to be a huge leap forward in the ability to customize the Blender UI, but for now... you can still configure windows as you like them, set the colors for about any aspect of the UI, and then save the entire theme out into its own .py script. When I get home I can post the exported script for my UI if you want... remind me is there away to turn off that stupid selector ring in 2.5 yet? You talkin' about the 3D cursor? (the little dot w/ the red & white ring around it). I used to be aggravated by the 3D cursor... then I learned how to use it. Now I love it. Set the transform "Pivot" to "3D Cursor", hit SHFT+S (snap menu), and investigate how the 3D cursor can speed up your work-flow. You can snap that cursor to any existing object or selection, and use it has the pivot for any transform. All the talk here about posing tools... you can pose a mesh pretty quickly using the 3D cursor and named vertex groups... no need for bones or vert-to-bone assignments etc. What is a "bone" but a set transform pivot assigned to a group of vertices. Last Edited By: Ran13 08/24/09 05:53:08. Edited 4 times.
arquebus		#37	[-]
(08/24/09 10:42:11) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	When I get home I can post the exported script for my UI if you want yes that would be great, along with instructions on how to activate it also the idea of using a parented hierarchy of selected vertices and being able to select your own pivot point for each selection might make for a good boneless rigging system
extrudeface		#38	[-]
(08/24/09 10:48:36) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	ycarry- is there away to turn off that stupid selector ring in 2.5 yet? the stupid ring is pretty useful if know how to use it. wether you refer to blender cursor (absolutely useful for levels and whatever architecture building or other sort of modeling) , or the gizmo (I don't use it for modeling, but a lot for rigging and animation. ) I think what he does is just use themes features. Is pretty configurable (have not watched the vid) . I change all a lot while working, ie, texturing, changing wires colors, etc. (well, I do that with wings also. Is just that I actually paint all texture pixels in blender, or almost -a fine paint 2d session comes later often)
ycarry		#39	[-]
(08/24/09 11:50:28) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	3D cursor is one of the "understand how it work and how use it then you start to smile..." thing in Blender Pivot_Points
Ran13		#40	[-]
(08/25/09 05:25:43) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I use the 3D cursor a LOT for bone placement. Most joints are defined by rings of verts that define the volume. Finding the center of that volume is often a "hit or miss" when you eyeball it. Snapping the 3D cursor to the actual calculated center of the volume allows for more accurate initial placement of bones... especially in mechanical rigs (think pistons and gears and such). In Edit mode, I select a group of verts, the center of which is where I want the bone. Hit SHFT+S for the snap menu, choose "cursor to selection", this puts the 3D cursor at the center of the selected verts. I can then tab out of Edit mode (which would otherwise "lose" your selection), and Spacebar->add Bone. Since the 3D cursor controls the origin of object placement, the new bone is created right were I need it. As for the theme... arquebus...dude... watch the video, read the links... it's a very simple "Theme" system accessible via the Scripts menu. However... there are other things "different" than just the default colors. The icon set is not the standard icon set. Changing this is as simple as downloading the icon file (a PNG image of all the icons on a pre-specified grid) and putting it in your Blender dir, IIRC. You're on your own with the window placement, but it only takes about 3 minutes to set the windows up as shown. Once you have a setup you like, simply hit CTRL-U to save it as the "default". From then on, Blender will launch with your setup... including any meshes, lights, and/or camera that are in the scene when you hit CTRL-U. Last Edited By: Ran13 08/25/09 05:33:43. Edited 2 times.

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