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 wasamonkey |
Lock/Unlock SUGGESTIONS (images) HERE |
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(02/03/03 17:40:10) |
I am open to suggestions for a better icon. If someone can make an "unlocked lock" icon that is not too similar to the "locked lock", I'll be happy to switch.
how about a key? this would signify it is unlocked and should be fairly visably different |
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Unregistered(d) |
How about an open lock ? | ||
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(02/03/03 22:12:34) |
How about an open lock ?
What's the problem with an open lock ? Draw it with the hook rotated 180 degrees open as in a pad-lock open. I guess this is kinda obvious, so someone must have a beef with it. |
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Unregistered(d) |
How about using color too. | ||
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(02/03/03 22:22:26) |
How about using color too ?
Red closed lock. Green Lock with slighly open gate. I the more rare case og a color blind person, the slightly open gate should be discernable. But you can't please everyone. I'd love to see color used as a cue. |
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bjorng |
Re: bjorn unlock suggestion | ||
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(02/03/03 22:26:19) |
I am more interested in actual images than verbal suggestions. Sorry for being unclear.
A key is not good I think, because a key is frequently used as a keyframing icon in animation. An open lock would be good if it can be made sufficiently dissimilar to the closed look. It could have even have another color. (Changing the closed lock is OK.) Here is a copy of the actual 16x16 BMP file of the lock used in Wings: homepage.mac.com/bjorngustavsson/images/small_locked.bmp For reference only, here is how it looks enlarged to 64x64 pixels:  |
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tsuru9 |
Re: bjorn unlock suggestion | ||
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(02/03/03 23:58:42) |
 64x64  actual size Hope it's not too similar... |
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bjorng |
Unlock suggestion | ||
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(02/04/03 00:27:58) |
Too similar, I think.
But changing the color to grey could work: 
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GetaVe |
Re: Unlock suggestion | ||
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(02/04/03 00:36:21) |
oki doke all done and they are up, sorry for the link but you know geocities.....
www.geocities.com/tor_doc/locks.html a breif summary of these... the ones that look best together to me are 1 and 2 7 and 11 6 and 10 but you can choose(if you are going to that is) any one of those... nothing special there just fooled around a bit for a minute or two.. |
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shahar2k |
Re: Unlock suggestion | ||
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(02/04/03 01:42:12) |
the gray one looks great
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puzzledpaul |
padlock | ||
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(02/04/03 03:36:04) Registered |
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tmt4clv |
my 2 cents :) | ||
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(02/04/03 04:20:46) |
Here are my ideas:
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joorce |
Locks | ||
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(02/04/03 06:38:26) |
Bjorn, I think the grey one should be locked, as disabled, and open one should in normal color.
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xr4y |
Locks | ||
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(02/04/03 08:48:28) |
i agree with pp. no lock-icon for the unlocked state :o)
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bonner99 |
combo, please | ||
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(02/04/03 09:51:06) |
I think lots of these could work.
My favorite would be a combination of the greyed-out, open lock icon posted above, and the "notch" suggested also. The open lock, though grey, could use that little notch to emphasize the gap where the lockbar is away from the lock body. I would leave the open keyhole in the lock icon center for both states, so the only thing changing would be the position of the lock bar, and the greying. |
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Unregistered(d) |
Re: combo, please | ||
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(02/04/03 10:41:31) |
I think, that the entire lock and latch hook should be one color. Don't use a separate bright color for the gate.
I generally think that Bright colors are terrible for a GUI. Saturation levels should always be tamed down from full. I'd use the open and closed locks depicted here, but use shades of red and green, or black and grey to provide additional difference cues. |
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Fuzatron |
Re: combo, please | ||
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(02/04/03 11:03:21) |
Totally agree with Mark on color use.
But whatever you decide... please please PLEASE.... don't put a smiley face on the lock. ;p |
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bjorng |
A difficult decision | ||
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(02/04/03 11:16:47) |
Thanks for all suggestions.
I have now made my decision for the next release. (Not impossible to change in a future, but I don't want to spend any more time on it right now.) I did consider switching colors to have grey mean locked (disabled), but when I tried it I found the black unlocked pad-lock too disturbing. I also nearly decided to use PuzzledPaul's icons, but then Dan said that the grey one looked liked an iron and the black one like a camera. After that they did look like that to me, too. Maybe we can use the "iron icon" for the Flatten command if it it'll ever need one. :) So it's back to my original locked pad-lock and tsuru9's unlocked pad-lock re-colored, plus a few minor changes compared to my previous suggestion. 
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bonner99 |
Re: A difficult decision | ||
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(02/04/03 12:22:15) |
That wouldve been funny:
Newuser question: "When do I click the camera, and how do I get the iron to work???" You know it'd happen. I like the chosen method. The grey/black is plenty-o-contrast. |
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puzzledpaul |
vested interests | ||
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(02/04/03 12:28:44) Registered |
<< looked liked an iron and the black one like a camera >>
Probably because I've got shares in Electrolux and Nikon :) |
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BiGwinG |
Re: vested interests | ||
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(02/04/03 13:21:17) |
OK, just managed to get this finished heres my idea.
The closed lock is represented by a red icon the open lock by a greyed version. Ive desaturated the red so its not as in your face. I've also tweaked a few other bits. The bottom two eyes have had some subtle colour added and the red pyramid icon has had the black edges made dark red and the bottom right white pyramid icon has had its black edges made dark grey. It also makes more sense to me if when you make the object not visible the other 2 icons are removed as well, so you can see at a glance whats there and what isn't. What do you reckon? www.bgbang.co.uk/worktop/...s_icon.gif Later Chris |
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bonner99 |
Re: vested interests | ||
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(02/04/03 14:03:55) |
Very nice, Bigwing,
I must admit I like your model the best. Even for the visibility state. It can get confusing looking through a chain of icons for the different one, to make something visible again. The Wingmaster has chosen, but please keep this concept alive, BW, remembering that Wings is always improving. |
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GetaVe |
Re: vested interests | ||
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(02/04/03 14:35:54) |
i like the greyed unlock idea, but tsuru's unlock icon is sort of pointy... and also the thing of the unlock pointing the the left doesnt sit right with me....... dunno what it is........ i guess cuz when i use my locker and unlock my lock at school the hook part is always facing the right......hmm oh well.....
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