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 SheridanBoy |
Check out this extrude along path link |
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(04/27/02 13:50:29) |
Do you think this is something Wings could do?
Just curious. I use extrude along path with spline modeling but would be kind of cool to use this in wings. www.edharriss.com/tutoria...bd_xsi.htm Sheridanboy |
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polykillerbob |
That would be cool. | ||
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(04/27/02 15:46:06) Banned User |
That would be cool.
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jstro |
Re: That would be cool. | ||
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(04/27/02 16:21:19) |
In order for this to work one would have to be able to sketch a line in Wings for the extrusion to follow. I believe WingsOne used to have a trial plug-in way back when that was able to sketch a line in Wings, so yea, I think this is possible. And yes, it would be very cool. Maybe someday.
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polykillerbob |
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(04/27/02 20:47:05) Banned User |
Actually, the prerequisite drawing tools are already in there. You have to "think outside the box" for a few moments. And then you can realize that no new drawing tools need be implemented.
Here's how it could work. The user move a single vert "free" on the screen. When the user finishes moving the vert, the vert is replaced by an "ngon" that matches the one from which it was pulled. The orientation of the ngon at this time should probably be 90 degrees from the line along which the vertex ultimately moved. Press "d" to duplicate last trick. But after the vert is positioned the second time , the prior ngons should be re-aligned to be as "perpendicular" as possible to the new polyline being extruded outwards. Q.E.D. |
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GetaVe |
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(04/27/02 22:46:13) |
interesting...........but to complicated..........i think if im not mistaken bjorn wants to keep things SIMPLE as possible.......and so far so good..........i think the best thing to do would be to have something like where you can click the poly/s that you want to move/extrude along path and then you right click on extrude/move along path then a menu thing will pop up to ask which view you'd like to make the path in.....you select your view a window pops up and you draw your path and hit ok or done or something along those lines.........yes that sounds complicated but its not like pretend your modeling like what i have just said........its all just right click and click(other than the making the path) lol.......oh well seems simple to me anyways........
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polykillerbob |
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(04/28/02 04:29:21) Banned User |
Actually, I can't see it as more complicated. I'd see it as less complicated depending on how it is implemented.
The edge-loops could rotate into proper position as they are dragged. Making what I describe more visually accurate and faster than doing it with a spline (which has no volume). And editing should not require a new mode either. |
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puzzledpaul |
an alternative | ||
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(04/28/02 05:49:56) Registered |
The above extrusion tool (or variants thereof) have experienced a fair amount of exposure, both on the forum or at SF for some time I suspect Bj has his own ideas re how and if for inclusion into Wings.
Additions to Wings (by HowardT) however, offer other possibilities in the meantime.  Staying completely within Wings, and using the tweak plugin allowed the above sequence to be done fairly easily. Extract a face from a cube (or whatever) and cut n all sides (I cut 5) Using tweak, arrange the verts to your desired shape / profile (in x view) where you place the verts, will of course allow complete control over quads / edgeloops etc. Adding / removing verts as necessary can also be done at this stage if required. Select the face and extrude. I then joined 2 pairs of verts to separate body / legs Extrude a bit more to create a bit of body (join other verts on outside face) Mirror (Doing a neck as in original example would have been even easier) What you end up with can be as simple or as complex as you wish imo with some imagination and a bit of planning who knows? The other option draw (in point to point straight line mode) everything in Illustrator (or similar) first, gaining the benefit of the excellent tools available import into Wings then carry on as before. Re pix - L2k problems - sorry. Please use link below in the meantime? --www.geocities.com/paulthepuzzles/extrudenag.gif-- pp |
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GetaVe |
Re: an alternative | ||
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(04/28/02 20:05:15) |
pic doesnt work
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HellBorn |
Re: an alternative | ||
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(04/28/02 23:22:08) |
Do we really need that line?
We allready have something that almost could do the same even if it would need some repeating keypressing. You could do extrude/free from a side view repeating with the d key. The problem is that all the sections would be in the same angle and they would need to be rotated witch would take some time. But... If we had a version of extrude (extrude/free_rotate maybe) that not only extruded the suface but also rotated it so that the face normal was pointing along the extrude direction then repeating that command and placing those sections would not take much more time than drawing the line. |
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puzzledpaul |
angled sections etc | ||
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(05/02/02 15:29:41) Registered |
Since a similar approach to that mentioned in Hellborns post was raised some time ago (see link below), I thought a brief re-visit might be relevant.
The basic idea is outined in the following pix and was originally suggested as a variant on lift (from edge here)  Basic starting object select top face Although based on lift, there would be other options available to the user, + / - keys would elevate the selected face above the starting plane (2) Dragging the mouse would generate a standard lift action ie rotate the chosen face around an edge selected by the user. Dragging would therefore alter the angle (of the wedge), and + / - would increase or decrease its thickness as (3). If the + / - keys werent used, then the command would act like lift does now. Unlike my (crude) model, the shape of the wedge would be geometrically correct such that this wedge could even be used as the basis for lathing objects (amongst other things) its thickness and angle defining the final shape, of course. (4 and 5) show the result if the 2nd set of additional controls are used ie a facility to tilt the whole wedge from side to side. The proposed way of accomplishing this tilting action was by using the + / - keys (again) but in conjunction with a modifier key say shft. To my mind, the crucial difference between the above method and the current lift command is the fact that you can raise the lift axis above the plane of the original selected face and therefore create a whole sequence of wedge sections with completely different virtual radii (if so desired) As these wedges are geometrically correct, so should the final edge loops also be correct? Use of the tilt option allows the preceding operation to work in 3D, rather than 2D, of course. Imo, using shftd with this method could result in some interesting possibilities? A standard lift command until you touch the + / - keys. All of this could also apply to a lift from vertex command (anyone for plugins? :) ) pub33.ezboard.com/fnendowingsmiraifrm8.showMessage?topicID=75.topic |
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