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feeds@yuku.com (GetaVe) — Thu, 06 Feb 2003 20:21:31 GMT

bah.....oh well majoritys spoken.........

i like it guess thats what matters...

thanks for your opinions guys

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feeds@yuku.com (Fuzatron) — Thu, 06 Feb 2003 18:06:30 GMT

I second what pp said.
And if we were going to have the text, I would say lose the icons.

btw: I do like everything else about Sinister's mod =)

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feeds@yuku.com (puzzledpaul) — Thu, 06 Feb 2003 15:31:05 GMT

<< symbol itself communicates ..... >>
Couldn't agree more

Couple of points
1. Just exactly how long does it take a newb to figure out what a pryamid with red dots is for - and once they've done so, why is text needed?

2. If there were vast numbers of icons all over the place (I believe some apps are like this :) ) then there might be a call for a legend of some sort (especially if icons badly designed) - but this isn't the case here - and long may it stay this...

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feeds@yuku.com (GetaVe) — Thu, 06 Feb 2003 15:14:54 GMT

.. i think everyone should know the terminology... that is like a MUST when your doing cg... at least i thought it was.. and those words are good for beginners...and you say the edge icon is covered up? well just highlight a different edge..

like i said those words arnt intrusive, and they clarify what the icons mean to a greater degree... perhaps maybe smaller words? i still think the words are a fabulous idea..

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feeds@yuku.com (bonner99) — Thu, 06 Feb 2003 13:04:05 GMT

I could probably get used to the words, but are they really needed? Discounting that they cover up the edge icon, they still convey little more information, other than what a vertex is.

Does a triangle with just a vertex highlighted convey that clicking it will select vertices? I think it does, with or without the word. Does having the word "Body" there really clarify things, or could it confuse someone with terminology they really don't need.

I think the symbol...

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feeds@yuku.com (GetaVe) — Thu, 06 Feb 2003 01:19:06 GMT

bjorn, sinister uses words under his icons(grid, axis, vert, faces etc etc), which look VERY helpful to new commers.... AND they are unintrusive.. by all means i think those words should be included in wings... like as new icons..... just like sinister has them....... you just cant go wrong with them

although i dont fancy the rest of his scheme........lol no offense sinister, its just that my "scheme" is a darker one......with orange! lol but i really really love the...

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feeds@yuku.com (wasamonkey) — Wed, 05 Feb 2003 21:17:59 GMT

sinister could you give specific instructions?
I tryed compiling and it doesnt create the file wings_icon.bundle

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feeds@yuku.com (thedaemon) — Wed, 05 Feb 2003 18:58:01 GMT

actually, all I see is a wings.icon...

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feeds@yuku.com (sinistergfx) — Wed, 05 Feb 2003 18:48:07 GMT

When you compile it, it puts the wings_icon.bundle into the ebin directory (parallel to the icon directory).

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feeds@yuku.com (thedaemon) — Wed, 05 Feb 2003 18:42:32 GMT

how do I compile a wings_icon.bundle? All I can end up compiling is a collect_bmp.beam.... 0_0

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feeds@yuku.com (ambient whisper) — Wed, 05 Feb 2003 15:00:11 GMT

sinistergfx. could you by any chance offer your scheme? i

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feeds@yuku.com (sinistergfx) — Wed, 05 Feb 2003 13:38:04 GMT

Put it in wings3d\ebin

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feeds@yuku.com (thedaemon) — Wed, 05 Feb 2003 12:16:46 GMT

What do you do with the icon.bundle once you have compiled it?? where do you put it?

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feeds@yuku.com (bonner99) — Wed, 05 Feb 2003 10:31:56 GMT

I like it as in latest bg post. More importantly, it is not confusing at all. Plenty easy to use, and better than 85% of what's out there.

(Hope we move on to other things, and avoid entering death spiral on this one...)

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feeds@yuku.com (sinistergfx) — Wed, 05 Feb 2003 10:04:31 GMT

Also, you guys can always customize your icons to your own tastes by downloading the source, editing the bitmaps, and then compiling your own wings_icon.bundle.

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feeds@yuku.com (Mauritius) — Wed, 05 Feb 2003 09:52:10 GMT

A few comments.

1. Icons should clearly identify the objects or concepts they represent. Their shape should be simple. Complex shapes can hide the meaning of the icon.
For example, HCI people agree that the pictures in the Dock of OSX are no longer icons, they are photographs.
Once their size underruns a sudden threshold, they are hard to identify and serve no purpose anymore that is linked to the term 'icon'.
3. An icon should be as unique in shape as possible. In particular...

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feeds@yuku.com (bjorng) — Wed, 05 Feb 2003 08:38:32 GMT

I made an unintentional change this morning. The leftmost icon (to the left of the name) was not supposed to disappear when the object is hidden. It should always be there to indicate wheter it is a light or a plain object (which will be more important in future releases of Wings when there can be more object types).

Also, BiGwinG mailed me a collection of ions. I like his improved eye and pyramid icons and they are now included.

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feeds@yuku.com (BiGwinG) — Wed, 05 Feb 2003 02:49:41 GMT

Heh,
yep good old sunny (well at this minute) Macclesfield, where men are men and sheep have that slightly surprised expression on their faces. 8)

Chris

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feeds@yuku.com (puzzledpaul) — Wed, 05 Feb 2003 02:34:43 GMT

<< Morning >>

Hi Chris - does this mean you're the UK side of the pond as well?

pp

(sorry for the v brief bit of OT)

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feeds@yuku.com (BiGwinG) — Wed, 05 Feb 2003 02:20:07 GMT

Morning PP

Yeah I agree, it looks more streamlined/cleaner without the grey blocks there.

Thats good news Bjorn, cheers.

Later
Chris

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feeds@yuku.com (wasamonkey) — Mon, 03 Feb 2003 17:40:10 GMT

I am open to suggestions for a better icon. If someone can make an "unlocked lock" icon that is not too similar to the "locked lock", I'll be happy to switch.

how about a key?
this would signify it is unlocked and should be fairly visably different